Pete is worth remembering and celebrating any time. And you are doing your best to keep that message of inclusivity going. We'll get nowhere if we insist each person is vetted before being allowed to march, donate, help, carry that particular campaign on. I'll work with, speak to, and treat as a comrade anyone willing to put the effort in on that particular campaign. I worked with ex military men and women in the campaign for nuclear disarmament, and people who thought the death penalty should be reintroduced. They weren't pacifist as I am, but most folk aren't pacifist. If I started vetting supporters on whether they were pacifists for Black Lives Matter, socialism or anarchism, pro abortion, women's rights, pro Palestine (and for anti semitism), I'd never get anything achieved, would I? A little common sense on shared campaigns and actions will help us on the way to whatever "Utopia" we hold in our hearts.
Thank you , I met David through the Julian Assange campaign, according to the views of some he shouldn't even talk with me as a (Modern day) libertarian. I ask though how one is supposed to change or moderate others opinions if one doesn't engage with them? David is an intelligent, well read and warm hearted proponent of his ideas. I thought his analysis of Oliver Anthony's song excellent even if I don't agree totally with all of it. The other problem with putting people in boxes to be ignored is that as you say is that few of us tick all the boxes. Yes, I spent too many years working in a armament company making a living and although against our forever wars I am not a pacifist. I have also though stood alongside CND in the 80's outside of US airbases in the South West of England and also attended anti aparthied rallies in South Africa in 1982.
...I got to meet Pete outside Riverside church for Berigan's memorial. (The lovebeams that came from his eyes when he spoke to you were incredible) And heard Vonnegut speak! It was quite the event.
I note that Oliver Anthony has disowned the right & the white supremicists. He said he was referring to Republican politicians as "Rich men north of Richmond".
Some might criticize him for tans king too long to do it, but i won't. All the downloads he got from them probably helped him financially. Hopefully, he got paid when Faux News broadcast his work to millions of people.
Pete Seeger! Wow, you've got cred, bro :-) And to be 'correct' - his death doesn't seem to be so long ago to me. I used to play him on my radio program.
As for the social media; as Kris Kristoffeson said to Sinead O'Connor "Don't let the bastards get you down".
Sounds to me as though the 'left' in the US has succumbed to the same fate as the Healyites in England, when bad leadership led to the organisation being penetrated to such a degree that there were more agent provocateurs than genuine members. Dare to struggle dare to win! Keep on keeping on, comrade.
Pete is worth remembering and celebrating any time. And you are doing your best to keep that message of inclusivity going. We'll get nowhere if we insist each person is vetted before being allowed to march, donate, help, carry that particular campaign on. I'll work with, speak to, and treat as a comrade anyone willing to put the effort in on that particular campaign. I worked with ex military men and women in the campaign for nuclear disarmament, and people who thought the death penalty should be reintroduced. They weren't pacifist as I am, but most folk aren't pacifist. If I started vetting supporters on whether they were pacifists for Black Lives Matter, socialism or anarchism, pro abortion, women's rights, pro Palestine (and for anti semitism), I'd never get anything achieved, would I? A little common sense on shared campaigns and actions will help us on the way to whatever "Utopia" we hold in our hearts.
Thank you , I met David through the Julian Assange campaign, according to the views of some he shouldn't even talk with me as a (Modern day) libertarian. I ask though how one is supposed to change or moderate others opinions if one doesn't engage with them? David is an intelligent, well read and warm hearted proponent of his ideas. I thought his analysis of Oliver Anthony's song excellent even if I don't agree totally with all of it. The other problem with putting people in boxes to be ignored is that as you say is that few of us tick all the boxes. Yes, I spent too many years working in a armament company making a living and although against our forever wars I am not a pacifist. I have also though stood alongside CND in the 80's outside of US airbases in the South West of England and also attended anti aparthied rallies in South Africa in 1982.
The more of us who can speak up, the easier it gets. We really don't have to agree on everything - that would make us a cult, I reckon!
Divide and rule is still the number one tool.
...I got to meet Pete outside Riverside church for Berigan's memorial. (The lovebeams that came from his eyes when he spoke to you were incredible) And heard Vonnegut speak! It was quite the event.
I note that Oliver Anthony has disowned the right & the white supremicists. He said he was referring to Republican politicians as "Rich men north of Richmond".
Some might criticize him for tans king too long to do it, but i won't. All the downloads he got from them probably helped him financially. Hopefully, he got paid when Faux News broadcast his work to millions of people.
Love your insight David! 💕
Pete Seeger! Wow, you've got cred, bro :-) And to be 'correct' - his death doesn't seem to be so long ago to me. I used to play him on my radio program.
As for the social media; as Kris Kristoffeson said to Sinead O'Connor "Don't let the bastards get you down".
Sounds to me as though the 'left' in the US has succumbed to the same fate as the Healyites in England, when bad leadership led to the organisation being penetrated to such a degree that there were more agent provocateurs than genuine members. Dare to struggle dare to win! Keep on keeping on, comrade.
Excellent commentary and rebuttal.