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Peg Millett's avatar

PS, I love what you’re doing with this!!!

Peg Millett's avatar

Thank you, David, this has been illuminating to me. I really am a bit of a Luddite, living off grid over 40 years, and failing to understand the complicator much.

I also know another musician who lost her ability to make her own music years ago as a result of a major motorcycle wreck. Brain damage and hands busted enough to keep her from playing instruments. She is making amazing music now with AI, it’s way high frequency!! So her gifts to the world have been unlocked.

sous-merde's avatar

> I do not have the nut cracked as far as how to get this music out there.

If i may try to add something useful, you could use bots to trump the algorithm(, dangerous for your future on that platform if you get caught), and/or add AI videos on your songs like Red Creators Network does.

If i'm trying to find more options, i can think of participating in contests(, including foreign like in Russia or China if they have these ?), getting into contact with anti-imperialist filmmakers, or perhaps investing in advertisements i.d.k.

If i'm trying a bit more, i'm looking at all these songs and they're all the same, kinda, they mostly sing about their feelings, but none are purely rational like a school lesson would be. In fact, i've learned about you a year ago while searching for that kind of artists, and ChatGPT told me that you were talking about history and i've yet to find a second name(, and the ones you're recommending don't compare).

It feels like being absolutely one-of-a-kind could benefit, and that people would appreciate to learn useful/difficult things through the pleasant medium that are songs. Everyone wants to have read difficult books, but no-one wants to read them :)

But since you already are almost unique in your genre and still aren't a multi-millionaire rockstar, it feels dishonest to argue that uniqueness is all that's needed.

> I will certainly not stop writing lyrics that I will come up with music for myself, and record myself, in my voice, with other human musicians.

Yay !

(And whether it is Suno or things like NotebookLM, we can still kinda feel that it's made by AI)

sous-merde's avatar

(I'm smoking (only )once per day, without doing something else at the same time, and it never ceased to give me ideas)

As an example, i was thinking about an album theme on, e.g., Democracy for the few by M.Parenti, with one song per (sub)part, echoing as accurately as possible the arguments made, even if it makes the song 10mn long.

Seemed/Seems worth adding 🤷

Ariel Ky's avatar

David, it feels as though you have taken your music to a new level with AI Tsuno. And it won't be long until the songs find a bigger audience than you have ever had before. I am confident in predicting this. As a creative person, I've also been using AI, and am continually amazed at the speed and quality of the production. We write stories together, although like you said, my prompts matter a lot in the quality of what gets produced. And I have learned to push back to keep control of the srory and steer it where I want it to go.

Also I teach English online, after a career of some 25 years as an ESL teacher, with a Master's degree in TESOL. Someone who doesn't have all that experience may not have the ability to create the prompts that I do to customize lessons. I could do it myself, of course, and I have in the past. However, it was always rushed, and there were always one or two mistakes that I didn't catch, which doesn't happen anymore.

I've always wanted to rewrite the pronunciation poem, "The Chaos", which is way too long and was written in the late 1800's by a Belgian poet and English teacher, with many archaic words and place references to England. However, I've considered it valuable because it gives students practice with all of the sounds in the English language. Finally, I rewrote it with Claude.ai, shortening it and updating the language. We went back and forth over every line in the poem. I didn't always accept his suggestions. This process took about five hours total, but I am well pleased with what we finally came up with.

At age 72, I am learning how to do all kinds of things on the Internet, following the coaching of Claude.ai, such as creating a Power Point presentation with cameos of myself speaking. I have even recreated my Youtube channel, and am following the coaching to monetize my photos and reels, and learn more about storytelling.

Yes, I'm concerned about how AI will take over jobs, and that billionaires are creating it for their mostly malevolent purposes, and that our government isn't regulating it. I'm also concerned about the environmental impact of database centers that use gargantuan amounts of electricity and water for cooling. However, I'm also thrilled at having AI to play with. We make a great team. And that's the way to a wondrous future, as we learn to team with AI. Everyone can pursue their dreams in the utopia I can envision, and nobody will have to work at a job that they hate or are bored with, just to make money.

AI is improving exponentially. The genie has been let out of the bottle. What happens next is up to all of us. However, being Luddites about AI won't help anything. We need to shape what happens next, to create our future. And AI can help us do that. After all, AI needs us to exist. Although that may change in the future, I think AI will always want people to play with.

And maybe we are limiting ourselves to insist on a universal wage. I can see that we might have a future where money itself becomes obsolete.

David Rovics's avatar

fair to say that i share your orientation completely. i'm also very concerned about the future of this technology in the hands of the billionaires. but it's undeniably powerful stuff, and those warning us off from using it generally have no experience with it, and are afraid to click play on one of my tracks for fear of whatever they're afraid of. those who really engage with it as you and i have can see how abundantly obvious its power and potential is. also, most professional musicians are already using it, so the people calling me judas for doing so seem sillier by the day. we can choose to stop driving on the highways, too, but that won't make the highways go away, or make most people stop using them.

David Finkelstein's avatar

This post and your Ai Tsuno music has inspired me to write a response post, which also includes the reasons I enjoy your Ai Tsuno tracks so much:

https://improvtechnique.substack.com/p/the-value-of-difficulty

David Rovics's avatar

i enjoyed reading that! thanks for the glowing review. a bunch of your comments are soon going to inspire another essay on the subject from me, i think...